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HuffPost’s Disturbing Interview With White Nationalist Richard Spencer

HuffPost’s Disturbing Interview With White Nationalist Richard Spencer

NEAR GAINESVILLE Fla. — Richard Spencer, a leader of what he calls the “alt-right” and the man known to most as the “Nazi who got punched,” agreed to talk to HuffPost the night before his speech at the University of Florida in Gainesville last week.

He and his followers had rented a house in the Florida countryside for security reasons, they said. A hotel in Gainesville wasn’t an option.

After driving down dirt roads, HuffPost found Spencer standing in the dark, smoking a cigar and drinking Angel’s Envy bourbon out of a tall glass. Behind him, about a dozen of his followers filtered in and out of the house’s front door.

It looked as though maybe they were having a small party. Just 14 hours to go until Spencer, their movement’s figurehead, took the stage at the University of Florida in an elaborate and expensive troll aimed at spreading their rebranded version of organized racism.

Richard Spencer is interviewed by the HuffPost in a remote location outside Gainesville, Florida, on Oct. 18.
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Richard Spencer is interviewed by the HuffPost in a remote location outside Gainesville, Florida, on Oct. 18.

Spencer, president of the innocent-sounding National Policy Institute, which is listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, was a top-billed speaker at the right-wing rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August. That event spiraled into violence and ended with a neo-Nazi driving his car into counter-protesters, killing 32-year-old Heather Heyer.

Spencer has since been on a mission to give speeches at multiple universities, threatening schools with lawsuits if they don’t allow him. This has left college towns across the country scrambling to make sure they don’t become the next Charlottesville.

Richard Spencer says he supports the push for white identity but doesn't want to be called a Nazi.
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Richard Spencer says he supports the push for white identity but doesn't want to be called a Nazi.

In a 20-minute interview with HuffPost, Spencer balked at being called a Nazi, was unapologetic about essentially forcing the University of Florida to spend over half a million dollars in security costs, extolled the virtues of a white “ethno-state,” explained why he’s targeting universities for recruitment and blamed violence at white supremacist events on counter-protesters.

“I mean, the only people who would do something that would — engage in violence or try to disrupt something or to harm anyone, are these counter-protesters and detractors,” Spencer told HuffPost when talking about the University of Florida event.

The next day, about an hour after Spencer left the stage at the university’s Phillips Center for the Performing Arts, three of his fans were seen driving through town. Police say they screamed “Heil Hitler!” and other chants at a group of counter-protesters.

Colton Fears, left, Tyler Tenbrink and William Fears were arrested after Richard Spencer spoke at the University of Florida. One of the men is accused of firing a gun at a counter-protester.
Gainesville Police Department
Colton Fears, left, Tyler Tenbrink and William Fears were arrested after Richard Spencer spoke at the University of Florida. One of the men is accused of firing a gun at a counter-protester.

When a counter-protester hit their vehicle with a baton, police said, the three men got out of the vehicle. “Kill them,” “Shoot them” and “I’m going to fucking kill you,” two of the men screamed.

Police said the third man lifted a gun and fired it at a counter-protester. The bullet missed. The three men, all of whom had traveled to Gainesville from Texas for the Richard Spencer speech, were later arrested on attempted murder charges.

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